The Lord Works in Mysterious Ways

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  1. #1 by nikeyo on March 23, 2014 - 9:35 PM

    Love this. Love more the total troll it brought.

    Ahhhh, Christianity. 😉 Thanks for sharing the giggle.

  2. #2 by silenceofmind on March 23, 2014 - 5:24 PM

    What is the specific scripture passage that says Anne Frank is burning in hell because she didn’t accept Jesus as her savior?

    • #3 by popreflection on March 23, 2014 - 5:50 PM

      Jesus fucking Christ, I do not think you will find a direct reference to Anne Frank in the Bible, do you?

      But to answer your question, which borders at trolling:

      “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” —John 14:6

      ONLY Jesus shed His blood upon the cross. ONLY Jesus! If you try to enter into Heaven some other way than through the Lord Jesus Christ, than God says you are a “thief” and a “robber” trying to break in illegally…

      “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.” —John 10:1

      “I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.” —John 10:9

      If you pass up the gospel of Jesus Christ, then you are hopelessly lost without Christ (see Galatians 5:4)

      1st John 2:23, “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” There you have it. If you acknowledge that Jesus is the Christ, the only begotten Son of God Who came into the world, receiving His payment at Calvary for your sins, then you are saved. Jesus died, was buried, and rose again three days later. This is the gospel (1st Corinthians 15:1-4).

      Jesus ascended into Heaven (Romans 8:34) and appeared before the Father (Hebrews 9:24), applying His literal blood to the mercy seat in the heavenly holy place (Hebrews 9:12). We are saved by faith in Jesus Christ (Galatians 3:26), redeemed by His shed blood (1st Peter 1:18-19).

      “And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” —Revelation 20:14,15

      The Bible says that Hell was created for the devil and his demons, not for one single human being (Matthew 25:41). Unfortunately, when Adam sinned he allowed sin into the world (Romans 5:12). We were born sinful by nature, unable to fellowship with God. We are sinners. Our spirit is dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:2). When we believe on Jesus Christ as our personal Savior to forgive our sins, then we are born-again (John 3:3).

      • #4 by silenceofmind on March 23, 2014 - 5:52 PM

        Pop,

        That reference doesn’t say anything about being sent to hell.

        It means that only God can reveal God and that Jesus is the Supreme Judge.

        • #5 by popreflection on March 23, 2014 - 5:58 PM

          only through me will you go to heaven and have a place next to the lord. If you dont go to the lord and have a place beside him, then where are you? In a parallel heaven?

          It is quite reassuring, and with that I mean disconcerting, to know that a) you dont even know your freaking holy book and that b) what you do think you know, you have chosen to completely misinterpret and disregard because probably, subconsciously, you know that a position that condemns people to hell for not believing in Jesus, is indefensible. So now you are trying to say that “oh, no no, it never says that” when everyone knows precisely what all the above referenced passages say and mean. I mean if it doesn’t say that, then what would have been the point of jesus coming down in the first place and then resurrecting? It is abundantly clear what is said and meant, you are just choosing not to believe it because it doesn’t sound good.

          • #6 by silenceofmind on March 23, 2014 - 6:03 PM

            Pop,

            We don’t know and can’t say how Jesus judges people.

            When he was on the Cross he judged one man hanging next to Him to be worthy of heaven even though the man’s occupation had been that of a thief.

            Where’s the justice in a thief going directly to heaven and an Anne Frank victim of genocidal maniacs, going to hell?

            The God of the Bible is a God of justice.

            We learn that from the Bible beginning with the book of Genesis.

        • #7 by popreflection on March 23, 2014 - 6:25 PM

          the god of the bible is a genocidal murderer. “I kill … I wound … I will make mine arrows drunk with blood and my sword shall devour flesh.” Deuteronomy 32:39-42

          • #8 by silenceofmind on March 23, 2014 - 6:31 PM

            Pop,

            What is wrong with God aggressively wiping out evil?

            You are applying the years of your life that were made possible by centuries of warfare culminating in WWI and WWII.

            The triumph of the Christian United States and its ascension to solo hyper-power status are what has pacified a very violent world for a few brief decades.

            In the time of yore, evil wasn’t dealt with by teach-ins.

            People went to war to destroy it.

            When we read the Bible we are going back to a times and cultures very different from our own.

          • #9 by popreflection on March 23, 2014 - 6:49 PM

            aggressively wiping out evil? Since when is not believing in and worshipping some arrogant, pompous ass an evil act deserving of punishment by death? Why was the slaughter of the canaanites to make room for the jews justifiable? When god ordered the first borns in egypt, including infants, to be killed, where was the justice in that? God killed what, 2.5 million people in the Bible – either directly or had them killed. And satan killed what? 10? A dozen?

            When you are personally responsible for the death of millions of people, mostly because they refuse to fellate your ego, then you do not hold the moral high ground or can claim to be a just and merciful. In that case let’s call it what it is, an angry, egotistical, narcissistic, arrogant, genocidal murderer with the ego the size of cathedrals. Someone who endorses pedophilia, genocide, rape and torture.

            You, friend, are in denial, bordering at delusional. And i get it, you have to tell yourself these lies about god’s benevolence and greatness blah blah fart to believe the shit you find in the Bible.

          • #10 by silenceofmind on March 23, 2014 - 7:20 PM

            Pop,

            I am not denying anything.

            I am simply expressing the orthodox Christian understanding of the Bible.

            And since the Christians, not the atheists, are the ones who get to define their own scriptures, you are the one whose interpretation is in error.

        • #11 by popreflection on March 23, 2014 - 7:34 PM

          Yes if by that you mean that you just get to make up your own shit and believe in it, yeah, I understand why any logical interpretation of said work would not resonate with you.

          And that’s what you are saying: that religious people, those orthodox Christians you cite have the right to make up their own stories and then abide by them when convenient and quibble over semantics so they can disobey/disregard them when not convenient. If this self-aggrandizing gibberish really is “evidence” for you that god and jesus are real, then the former statement makes sense/

          • #12 by silenceofmind on March 23, 2014 - 7:41 PM

            Pop,

            The Bible is a result of the Catholic Church.

            That means the Catholic Church gets to define the meaning of their own scripture.

            And that’s the way it was for 1500 years until Martin Luther took it upon himself to redefine the Bible and consequently, Christianity.

            The only trouble is, Martin Luther didn’t have any authority other than what he gave to himself.

            Which makes all of his redefinitions lame.

            And which laid the ground work for atheists to cook up their own definitions for the Bible such as the one we see here.

          • #13 by popreflection on March 23, 2014 - 8:12 PM

            no more trolling.

        • #14 by popreflection on March 23, 2014 - 8:02 PM

          Now you are engaging in nothing but pure sophistry not to mention right out completely illogical reasoning.

          Also, atheists are not doing any Bible interpretation as the Bible is quite clear in it is message, not needing atheists to do anything to it or interpret it for anyone. In other words, if Christianity and with it god and religion look bad then that is because they are. And they are not because atheists are misinterpreting things, but because the Bible is flawed in many serious ways and people are not blind, they can see that. Religious people and their holy books and the actions of its followers make themselves look bad, not atheists.

          In fact, I believe that reading the Bible makes you a better atheist.

          Your logic for why religion should basically be barred from criticism is that the authors who made it up are the only ones who can understand and critique it and everyone else is not fit to do so if said religion causes harm to others. That is a very problematic notion to hold and I am repeatedly reminded of how things like that just seem to not occur to you.

    • #15 by Monique on December 19, 2014 - 2:31 PM

      That’s what I would like to know…..whoever made this doesn’t read the bible.

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