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After a three month hiatus I am back and what better way to start off the quest for knowledge, wisdom and non bullshittery than to ask yourself this very simple question: How gullible are you?
Are you gullible enough to believe that a god would impregnate a poor peasant girl to give birth to himself so he can then grow up and die for a bunch of sins that he created in the first place so that one day he may come down and die for them to prove a point? (Are you officially lost amid this convoluted clusterfuck way of thinking here? Um, yeah, so am I)
Are you gullible enough to believe that Islam is a wonderfully peaceful religion that is merely misunderstood?
Are you gullible enough to believe that ideas, even bad ideas – and religion is full of bad ideas – do not influence the people we become? The decisions we make and the priorities we set?
Are you gullible enough to believe that corporations are people? That money does not influence political outcomes?
Are you gullible enough to believe that giving rich people tax exemptions so they can hide their wealth in offshore accounts creates jobs and helps some worker stuck in a minimum wage paying slow death improve their standard of living?
Are you gullible enough to believe that wealthy people are wealthy because they work for it instead of being the laziest, greediest, most opportunistic moochers that they are, who exploit the system, with proficiency and profligacy about which poor would-be swindlers can only dream?
Are you gullible enough to seriously think that beliefs and the ideas that inform them are beyond criticism and above reproach?
Are you gullible enough to believe that there is an actual marked difference between Democrats and Republicans?
Are you swayed by fluffy and hopeful State of the Union Addresses by our one percent fellating leaders? Are you so enamored by the belief in them that you forget that despite lofty speeches promising to help the middle class, they wanted to (and have in the past) appoint Wall Street executives in key goverment positions, such as President Obama’s nomination of Wall Street executive and banker Antonio Weiss for a top job at the Treasury Department?
Are you gullible enough to believe that one middle-class boosting policy enacted for every twenty pieces of legislation enacted furthering the “causes” of millionaires, bankers, corporations and oil companies, will bring us a step closer to the direly needed changes we need? That such half-assed steps will strengthen the middle class?
Are yo gullible enough to believe that giving more tax breaks to millionaires is good for all us?
Are yo gullible enough to think that most millionaires are even paying any taxes?
Are you gullible enough to believe that placing health care in the hands of private corporate entities that do not give two shits about your health but instead care a whole lot of about the bottom line, was better for people? Or constitutes health care reform?
Are you gullible enough to believe that the Republican party stands for anything else beside hate, greed and bigotry?
Are you gullible enough to seriously believe that the solution to the crisis we face today with respect to a diminishing middle class is corporatist Hilary Clinton?
Are you gullible enough to believe that a Senate that actually votes on whether climate change is real or not can be trusted with accomplishing anything meaningful for this country and its people?
So exactly how gullible are you?
The emperor has no clothes. Religions and their associated gods are the biggest fraud that ever existed! I genuinely feel sorry for religious people. It is like they walk this Earth with blinders – willingly and gladly, no less. The more I study religions, the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself. In the case of Christianity how absurd that a god would become human just to sacrifice himself to himself in order to create a loophole for a rule that he created.
The fundamental problem with the entire idea of religious faith is that there’s no reality check. The ultimate arbiter is an invisible, inaudible, intangible being, whose nature and attributes nobody can agree on, and whose ultimate decisions we have no way of knowing until after we die. And the only way to “know” what this being thinks is to either trust in the word of people who swear that they’ve spoken to him directly… or to close our eyes, and think really hard, and tell ourselves that the voices in our heads and the feelings in our hearts are being planted there by our invisible friend.
And then Thog cut off both their heads, took their wives and daughters as slaves and everybody worshipped his rocks.
Islam sure knows how to spread the love and every minute, of every day citizens of Islamic countires can feel just how much god loves them. Let’s see, the first person in the long line of people god loves especially and who got to personally experience both the Prophet Muhammad’s and also god’s love is Soheil Arabi, an Iranian man who has been sentenced to death for saying disparaging things about Muhammad.
Branch 75 of Tehran’s Criminal Court found Mr Arabi guilty of insulting the Prophet, or “sabb al-nabi”, on 30 August.
Article 262 of the Islamic Penal Code states insulting the Prophet carries a punishment of death, however, article 264 of the Penal Code says if a suspect claims to have said the insulting words in anger, in quoting someone, or by mistake, his death sentence will be converted to 74 lashes.
The anonymous source claims: “Unfortunately, despite this Article and the explanations provided, the judges issued the death sentence.
Just like Muhammed would do. And i don’t mean that tongue-in-cheek because Muhammad really did kill people for insulting him and god whose message he was carrying.
The second person at the receiving end of god’s oh so endless love as said in the Koran is a British-Iranian woman, who has been imprisoned in Iran for nearly three months, after attending a men’s volleyball match.
Ghoncheh Ghavami has been held in Tehran’s notoriously tough Evin Prison since June 30 with no idea when she will be released.
After approximately 50 days in solitary, during which the family spoke to her just three times, they were allowed to see Miss Ghavami, once she was finally moved in with another cell mate. They have visited her four times in the last 80 days.
The infamous Evin prison, in North Tehran, known for detaining political prisoners and journalists, is one of the “most intimidating places” in the country according to Mr Ghavami.
“The prison is notorious. Ghoncheh is in the worst part of it and has been interrogated repeatedly [without a lawyer being present]. It’s the worst place you can be. It’s like something you see in the movies. The psychological conditions are awful. I’ve only seen one photo of it but my parents visited her yesterday [Wednesday] and they are at breaking point,” Mr Ghavami said. “My mother had to leave the visitor’s room and vomited so many times outside that she nearly passed out […] My sister is very distressed as she has gained the impression from her interrogators that she may have to stay for a long time.
And finally, a group of six Iranians has been sentenced to six months in prison and 91 lashes for releasing a music video in which they dance along to Pharrell Williams’ hit song “Happy.”
The group became famous in May when their music video for the hit song circulated on YouTube, racking up more than 150,000 views before attracting the attention of Iranian authorities. It featured three men and three unveiled women singing and dancing along to the four minute song in the street and rooftops of Tehran, mimicking the style of Pharrell’s official video.
Authorities arrested the group for contravening Iran’s strict vulgarity laws, which prohibit public displays of dancing, and paraded the six on state television, forcing them to express remorse for their behavior.
The Islamic Republic condemned the video as a “vulgar clip which hurt public chastity” and in a trial on Wednesday sentenced the participants to a suspended sentence of six months in prison.
Pharrell Williams responded to Iran’s actions on his Twitter account in May, saying: “It’s beyond sad these kids were arrested for trying to spread happiness.”
But. let us all walk around pretending Islam is the religion of peace, misunderstood and that the horrible things that take place as a direct results of the things written in the Koran are not really true and happening but merely confined to a few lunatics on the fringe and extremists. This is apparently not Islam. ISIS is not Islam. All the horrible things happening in the name of Islam and by Muslims are not Islam and it is everyone else’s fault for misunderstanding and misrepresenting such a beautiful and peaceful religion. Even our President went on live TV saying “ISIS is not Islam.”
Collective denial of the horror that is Islam is only going to hurt people. This is a barbaric faith and an uncivilized religion. Executing non believers and those who insult a prophet? Beheading infidels like swine at a slaughter?
The instances here are about Iran and the reason I have chosen Iran today is because Iran is not an Arab nation, thus dispelling the myth that Islamic extremism is is something confined to Arabs and Arabic countires and because the kind of atrocities that take place in Iran do not get much, if any, international attention. Let’s face it, if it does not affect the US and our war mongering efforts, we couldn’t give a shit.
Secondly, people rarely think of Iran when they think Islamic extremism.
In reality. Iran is just as bad not because of extremists but because of Islam. Period. This is not the works of extremists, this is the reality of Islam. Iran is an Islamic country and this is what you get when you have an Islamic country.
The sad truth is that what we see here and what does make the news every now and then is only a tiny glimpse of what the young people of Iran have been experiencing since the Revolution of 1979, when Iran became an Islamic Republic Shithole. The Iranian government has so much blood on its hands that the atrocities committed by known genocidal regimes, such as Rwanda, pales in comparison to it. Iran has been committing internal genocide for decades, but they have not done on a mass scale, so it is just considered internal turmoil.
Over the past 35 years, millions of young people – mostly women, especially anyone perceived as exhibiting any kind of Western likes and traits, including Western pop music and culture – have found a torturous demise in Iran’s prisons and “judicial” system, and I use the word judicial system here quite loosely as a kangaroo court where you are guilty until proven innocent isn’t much of a judicial system at all. It is more like a tribunal the likes of which one can expect to find in any totalitarian dictatorship.
All this is a result of Islam, and Islam only. Before the so-called Revolution (more like a Devolution) Iran, while having its problems, was still a country where existence was bearable; where you wouldn’t expect execution and indefinite imprisonment and lashes for dancing or talking to a man who wasn’t a relative. Women could get an education, a real education, and did not have to wear the hijab. Whatever it was, however imperfect it was, it wasn’t the unbearable soul crushing cesspool it is today.
When I look at these young people who have been sentenced to receive a horrible punishment for dancing happily on the streets, I not only feel sadness but also revulsion. Revulsion at a religion that tells its followers that doing such things violates god’s laws. A system that condones the murder of a man because he insulted someone.
Sure, everyone should be free to believe what they want but I would say in this case the price is too high. Islam is truly evil and it needs to be done away with. No more excuses for it, no more apologies.
Religious people and their apologizers do that all the time: It is all good and holy when things go well. Until someone gets hurt, of course, or a follower starts doing something they don’t like. Then, suddenly, they say their faith is misunderstood, misinterpreted and that in fact it is not what their faith is at all about
It is disgusting how out of fear of being called “Islamophobic” people, our President included, keep pandering to this sinister religion and its followers. There is nothing good about Islam and those Muslims who do not act like ISIS or what others call “extremists” are the ones just not taking their religion seriously, and not – as everyone would have us believe – because they are the true Muslims. True Muslims are ISIS, the Taliban and the vice ministry of Saudi Arabia and their credo and agenda is very clear. Sharia is not confined to a lunatic fringe, it is a core of Islam and its teachings. I don’t understand why people don’t get that.
In the Hadith book, which is a report of the teachings, deeds and sayings of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, there is AN ENTIRE CHAPTER of Prescribed Punishments (Kitab Al-Hudud) – that deals with all the ways one should punish those who disobey god or cross him or dont worship him right, including calling for the execution of gays.
Let me repeat this for you: ISLAM CALLS FOR THE EXECUTION OF GAYS (Qur’an (7:80-84) , Qur’an (7:81) , Qur’an (4:16) , Abu Dawud (4462) , Abu Dawud (4448) – “If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death.” (Note the implicit approval of sodomizing one’s wife)., Bukhari (72:774)…)
So I am not really interested in hearing crap like “respecting other peoples’ beliefs” when other peoples’ beliefs are not only harmful but right out fucked up sinister and call for the execution of people based on their sexual orientation and a host of attributes their god doesn’t approve of.
Ayatollah Abdollah Javadi-Amoli of Iran said, in April of 2012, that homosexuals are inferior to dogs and pigs, since these animals (presumably) do not engage in such acts. In November of that year, a cleric on British television stated, “What should be done to those who practice homosexuality? Torture them; punish them; beat them and give them mental torture.”
Why am I anti-Islam? Well, for the simple reason that Islam is anti-me, and it’s anti every fundamental value I hold.
This is not just people saying gays shouldn’t get married, which is bad enough, this is people saying they should be killed. There is a difference. And not just gays but infidels and women who show skin and have sex before marriage and atheists and anyone who violates what Muhammed preached.
No one is obliged to pander to these people and be polite and give them a platform and forum to spread their hatred and such worldviews that are barbaric, dangerous and beyond harmful. We have an obligation to speak up and anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
I really want to see people who keep saying Islam is the religion of peace and understood to actually open up aKoran and read it cover to cover. Because the reality is that it is not. It is a wretched book all about how one should take revenge on and punish people who do not obey the words of god as dictated to Muahmmed. There is nothing heart-warming and peaceful about Islam. And people who say it are painfully delusional and tragically misguided.
People who defend Islam need to educate themselves about Islam and what it teaches. If you practice and abide by a worldview that calls for the annihilation of those who disagree with them, then you have no right to speak your mind.
A new Pew Research Center report found that, worldwide, many people believe that it is necessary to believe in god to be a moral person.
In 22 of the 40 countries surveyed, the clear majorities say it is necessary to believe in god to be moral and have good values. This position is highly prevalent, if not universal, in Africa and the Middle East – both of which are – incidentally, or not – regions experiencing some of the highest murder and violence rates.
At least three-quarters in all six countries surveyed in Africa say that faith in god is essential to morality.
In the Middle East, roughly seven-in-ten or more, such as Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, the Palestinian territories, Tunisia and Lebanon, agree that god is essential to lead a moral life.
The irony, of course, is that countries that experience the highest rate of such things as overall violence, bigotry, intolerance, rape, misogyny, oppression, racism, subjugation and thus various degrees of civil and human rights violations – all of which are, unequivocally, immoral – exhibit the highest percentage of people who believe that belief in god is essential for morality/
Let’s do a round-up of all these moral entities:
India’s capital city of New Delhi, which is one of those countries where the overwhelming majority, 70%to be exact, believe it is necessary to believe in god to be moral and have good values, had 1,121 rape cases in the first eight months of 2013 alone. And these are only the reported and registered cases and in one city alone. The actual numbers are probably much higher as not all rape cases all reported for obvious reasons.
Also interesting to note is that between 2004 and 2010, Indians have committed the second most rapes in the world, right behind the United States.
Belief in god a source of morality, indeed. I can just see the morality shining through everytime a believer in India rapes someone.
Looking at the Pew poll it is painfully obvious that the countries whose populations assert belief in a god as a condition for morality , are, in fact, some of the most violent, murderous and thus immoral countries in the world. In fact, one could assert that the more religious a country is, the more violent, homicidal, criminal, intolerant and immoral.
In Pakistan, which has one of the world’s highest homicide rates, a whopping 98 percent of respondents tied morality to religion/belief in god.
Venezuela, a country where 80% of respondents tied morality to god, had 24,000 murders last year, rendering it one of the world’s most dangerous countries.
Brazil, where 86 percent of respondents believe that religion/god breed morality, is the most dangerous country in the world based on murder rates alone (i.e not including assault, attempted murder, rape and other types of violence and/or crime), followed by our shining beacon of morality, India and then Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria, South Africa and the United States – all of which are countries where the majority (United States, Mexico) and overwhelming majority (70% and above, such as Indonesia, Nigeria and South Africa) believe that one does need god to be moral.
Uganda, which recently made homosexuality illegal and punishable with life in prison, is another shining haven for morality where 89 percent of respondents polled believe that religion is necessary for morality.
Again, it is interesting to note how some of the most self-proclaimed pious countries in the world exhibit some of, if not the, highest rates of violence, murder and all sorts of other notably immoral behavior.
It is also interesting to note that the survey found that people in richer nations tend to place less emphasis on the need to believe in god to have good values than people in poorer countries do, indicating that poverty, and with it ignorance, may be linked to religiosity.
Interesting to note, however, is that two countries stand out as clear exceptions to this pattern: the U.S. and China. Americans are much more likely than their economic counterparts to say belief in god is essential to morality, while the Chinese are much less likely to do so.
It is painfully obvious that belief in god does not produce morality and that, in fact, quite the opposite appears to be true, namely that belief in god – and with that I mean most notably the god of Abrahamic religions that is plaguing most of the nations in this poll, even though this can be said about the concept of god in general – creates anything but tolerant, loving, charitable, merciful, honest and thus moral people.
When you are intolerant and bigoted, when you rape, murder, subjugate, oppress and engage in all sorts of heinous acts, you cannot claim to be moral. In fact, you are blatantly immoral. By suggesting your god or religion makes you moral while you pull another dead body off your street, you are not only markedly immoral but also delusional and deeply ignorant.
It is very ironic, as well as a testament to the sad state of affairs, that given the above, it is atheists who are the least trusted entities in this country (and world-wide as it would appear) aside from rapists.
A poll by the Federal Bureau of Prisons concluded that only 0.209 percent of prisoners identified themselves as Atheists, far lower than the more than 39 percent of prisoners who identified as Catholic.
Morality Independent of Religion
Theists believe that morality is intelligible only in the context of religion and that humans have essentially no internal compass telling them the difference between right or wrong, or moral and immoral. In the view of the theist, one needs religion to be able to distinguish right from wrong, moral from immoral, good from bad.
Reality does not support such a ridiculous assertion.
As Christiopher Hitchens remarked ”Our knowledge of right and wrong is innate in us. Religion gets its morality from humans. We know that we can’t get along if we permit perjury, theft, murder, rape, all societies at all times, well before the advent of monarchies and certainly, have forbidden it… Socrates called his daemon, it was an inner voice that stopped him when he was trying to take advantage of someone… Why don’t we just assume that we do have some internal compass?”
Atheists don’t need the crutch that is religion to understand what moral behavior is and how to apply it to their lives. In fact, humans don’t need the crutch that is religion because recognizing that positive inputs lead to positive outcomes is common sense.
On the other hand, the morals of religious people are elicited out of them by instigation of fear and shame and punishment and the wrath of god, messiahs, prophets and hell.
Religious people often ask the atheist “but how do you define moral behavior when you have nothing to guide you and tell you what that moral behavior is?”, as if atheists where these mindless shells devoid of deductive reasoning and moral principles and could only be whole and moral if told by something or someone else what that morality is. As if atheists were incapable of making that distinction themselves by virtue of being a human being with a functioning brain.
There is just something deeply insincere about someone who believes they need to be good because some elusive divine power says so and not because they genuinely believe that being and doing good is better for all of us – whether some perceived divine entity endorses it or not.
If you are a good, moral person because you are afraid to be punished in the afterlife or go to hell, then you are selfish and only doing “the right moral thing” to dodge the bullet. But it means so much more if you are a good person because you really believe that by being good, being generous, giving, understanding, tolerant, charitable etc. the world will be a better place and everyone around you better off.
Moreover, and as has been illustrated above, being religious is nowhere near a guarantee that its followers and perpetrators will actually lead moral lives. On the contrary, one can expect to find some of the most immoral people in places that make the biggest claims about god and religiosity.
As Greg Epstein, the current Humanist and Chaplain at Harvard University noted, “sociologists have recently begun to pay more attention to the fact that some of the world’s most secular countries, such as those in Scandinavia, are among the least violent, best educated, and most likely to care for the poor.”
Given the violent and bloody history and facts surrounding religion, it is quite ironic of religious people to argue that morality and a sense of what is good or wrong cannot, or could never, have existed without religion.